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Post by Trygon on Sept 27, 2010 23:08:15 GMT
Everyone probably has seen this thread by now I assume. It started off pretty harmlessly. I mean, everyone likes a laugh. And a cheerful homoerotic tribute to Yori every so often is amusing to any Genner. Then suddenly, we are talking about rape and drawing pictures of him giving birth. Now there was a line that was crossed when the thread took that turn. It took a turn from a playful jab to all out disrespecting the man. I agree that Yori deserves some flak, but he does not deserve Genners posting nasty shit about him behind his back in the safety of their forum like fucking cowards. He did what he thought was right, regarding the purge of OldGen, and whilst we have the right to feel ill towards him, we do not have the right to go as far as we did in that thread. Whilst he does not like us, he'd never disrespect us as much as was done in that thread, and I think that he at least deserves that much back from us. I believe that 'What would happen if I sent this to Yori?' needs to be deleted and that we need to set a line regarding what is and is not acceptable when it comes to dealing with Yori threads and events.
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Post by Julio on Sept 27, 2010 23:11:21 GMT
Delete my thread. I beg of you, DESTROY THE MONSTROSITY IT HAS BECOME.
However that comic of him giving birth...Best. Comic. Made by NewGen/OldGen, EVER. I actually lol'd. But it was crude.
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Post by loplod on Sept 27, 2010 23:34:55 GMT
Most of us know I have been against yori-bashing from the start.
So we all know where I stand.
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Post by Poly on Sept 28, 2010 1:00:49 GMT
If Julio wants his thread deleted, delete it. As for Yori we are a sea of piss, or was that just bullshit?
*EDIT* It's gone. Ask & ye shall receive.
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Post by killercroc on Sept 28, 2010 2:25:29 GMT
He did what he thought was right Yeah? So did the Inqusition (spanish that is) i just wanted to say that, it holds no grounds. As for the 'yori' thing I do believe it is high time to get over it.. we should just leave him alone.
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Post by Trygon on Sept 28, 2010 11:20:45 GMT
If Julio wants his thread deleted, delete it. As for Yori we are a sea of piss, or was that just bullshit? Me and Julio decided that deleting the thread wasn't going to do anything if people are willing to go that far with Yori-bashing. It would be a temporary solution at best. And I am well aware that we are pretty bad, but the truth of the matter is; OldGen/NewGen has so far attacked things that deserve to be struck with the right amount of force. Scarclaw's art = We call it rubbish Thyalie's posts = We call him out on bs Roleplay Board = Raid and Purge Yori's General Purge should be 'We joke about Yori and celebrate our independence' not 'We say we wanna rape him and make comics about stuff coming out his ass'. If Yori was as bad as, lets say, Chris-Chan, I'd say he'd deserve that, but he is no where near that level of badness.
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Post by Magical Baker on Sept 28, 2010 14:17:36 GMT
Did I ever give Yori less (of my) respect than he deserves? Nope, neither did I give him more. I still respect the old sod, just as much as I have respect for anyone willing to deserve it, and he has as much as he deserves. Some agree, some disagree. Everyone can't respect him, he doesn't deserve that, but he deserves to be respected by the members of the hive as the moderator he is. He does what he is supposed to do, without question, that's why I respect him.
I sent him a birthday pm, and was disappointed when he didn't even reply with something snarky. But I assume he read it, or simply saw it. Whether or not you guys' coinciding birthday thread made him ignore it I don't care, I'm still happy to know I'm nice enough to congratulate people. I might as well just keep holding up my respect for his work until he doesn't deserve it in my eyes.
He does have a sense of humour too, just he doesn't show it too often. Just like the pictures of him that I'll never get to see knowing it's him, or his Tyranids.
Cheers!
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Post by Poly on Sept 28, 2010 14:32:16 GMT
Don't protect Yoritomo and put an open season sign on people less deserving in the same breath.
It makes you look like an ass kissing hypocrite.
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Post by Trygon on Sept 28, 2010 14:42:18 GMT
Who says I am protecting Yori? Heck, I'm the one that made him the gayest birthday card ever, and I'm probably going to make him the gayest Valentines card ever too.
I'm just saying that it is possible to go too far. And I think with Yori that line is when our banter goes from light hearted jabs to creepy and sick.
Everyone is free game, but there is such a thing as over-kill. I'd never use a rocket launcher to hunt deer no more then I'd use rape talk and disgusting comics to joke about Yori.
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Post by Poly on Sept 28, 2010 14:53:39 GMT
To prevent future episodes, should we establish what is too far? It's arbitrary! I for one, miss that thread very much.
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Post by Thlaylie on Sept 28, 2010 21:05:13 GMT
If Julio wants his thread deleted, delete it. As for Yori we are a sea of piss, or was that just bullshit? Me and Julio decided that deleting the thread wasn't going to do anything if people are willing to go that far with Yori-bashing. It would be a temporary solution at best. And I am well aware that we are pretty bad, but the truth of the matter is; OldGen/NewGen has so far attacked things that deserve to be struck with the right amount of force. Scarclaw's art = We call it rubbish Thyalie's posts = We call him out on bs Roleplay Board = Raid and Purge Yori's General Purge should be 'We joke about Yori and celebrate our independence' not 'We say we wanna rape him and make comics about stuff coming out his ass'. If Yori was as bad as, lets say, Chris-Chan, I'd say he'd deserve that, but he is no where near that level of badness. Probably spelling the name right is a good start at making a point. Are you implying that my posts are worse than Yori sanitizing General? If so WE are not the ones who need to change OUR thinking.
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Post by Julio on Sept 28, 2010 21:52:40 GMT
I'm sure it was just a typo Thlaylie. All he's saying is that we make fun of your posts, scarclaws art, my BAW thread, but when it comes to Yori we take it too far. Which I agree a little bit. It does kind of make us look bad.
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Post by Trygon on Sept 28, 2010 23:56:15 GMT
Thlaylie: ^Julio hit the nail on the head, so I don't really have to add anything. Though, regarding your name's spelling; I miss stuff sometimes. I put all of my posts into Word before posting, but I forget I don't have everyone names added into its dictionary, so shit happens. @poly: Arbitrary it might be, but there are some things that should be common sense. Common sense tells me that going on about how I want to rape a man, who has a direct influence on our TTH accounts and one of our prime member sources, is a bad, bad idea. I’d also mention how common sense tells me that saying such things is just disgusting, but apparently one deserves to have people going into discussion about sexually assaulting you and drawing pictures of you anally giving birth to stuff because you removed topics in a forum about toy soldiers. I mean, there is clearly nothing screwed up with that by our moral standards, amirite? Oh and Poly; you just had to bring in your girlfriend to boost your "team’s" votes, eh? Not saying she shouldn't be voting... Just saying it is mighty fishy to have someone that has been inactive for weeks show up all of a sudden just to pop in here, vote about a load of stuff she likely didn't read and disappear. I didn't make this topic to play voting games with the membership.
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Post by salamut2202 on Sept 29, 2010 1:22:13 GMT
enough really is enough. he does a pretty good job for the tth above 'other stuff' doesn't he?
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Post by Trygon on Sept 29, 2010 11:11:33 GMT
Salamut, I didn't make this thread because I think no one should say anything bad about him at all. I made this thread because I think that we shouldn't go as far as rape/kill/etc talk and troll-art because he hasn't done nearly enough to warrant that.
Of course, you can make your own thread to convince people to leave Yori alone. Anyone is allowed to stand on the soapbox and take up whatever cause they wish in NewGen.
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Post by salamut2202 on Sept 29, 2010 12:43:11 GMT
yeah, well my point of view isn't that the technique of patroll has gone too far, it's that people are on the yori patroll every second fucking subject!!!!
a bad joke does not get funnier the second time or every time after that.
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Post by Captain Leela on Sept 29, 2010 17:13:00 GMT
You make it hard to want to spend the time I could be reading the Clan of the Cave Bear series here arguing with you, Trygon. I've let Poly talk me out of saying something to you one too many times. When it all comes down to it, how much of my time is worth wasting trying to entertain mean people?Who says I am protecting Yori? You did when you asked for special treatment toward Yoritomo, rather than stating the comment is unacceptable towards ANY of NewGen's members. You could even have phrased it in the form of a suggestion. How does a troll ask people not to troll? Do you mix your messages ALL of the time? Scarclaw-THANK YOU for being brave enough to share something you've created. Thlaylie-THANK YOU for being on "our team"...as Trygon so charmingly put it. “Be yourself, don't take anyone's shit, and never let them take you alive.” -Gerard Way Trygon- THANK YOU for ruining the image of one of my literary heroes. I'd say historical hero, but I remember the methods employed by England while switching the reigns of ruling religion. Forcing everyone to be Catholic just isn't that epic to me.
Oh and Poly; you just had to bring in your girlfriend to boost your team’s votes, eh? Not saying she shouldn't be voting... Just saying it is mighty fishy to have someone that has been inactive for weeks show up all of a sudden just to pop in here, vote about a load of stuff she likely didn't read and disappear. I didn't make this topic to play voting games with the membership. I have been missed! Ha! I apologize, Great Trygon, for not posting in a manner that suits you. I just switched to a new job that requires more traveling. I'm struggling to remember how to be a good student again. I want something better than this for us and I'm going after it. That all requires copious amounts of homework and TIME. Do you have any idea how time consuming it is to run your own household? Clothes just don't wash themselves, dishes don't just appear in the cupboard, and good meals just don't make themselves. Your youth betrays itself. As it stands right now, we are sharing a computer too. Sharing and allowing the reign of free ideas are some concepts you should look into, Sir. I've known you all for years because Poly is one of your most faithful members. I get almost hourly updates on the goings-on of NewGen and The Hive before that. How dare you speak to me of things you couldn't possibly know! He takes time from ME to entertain YOU.
I think my anger stems from the fact that I liked you the best before I really got to know you, Trygon. It turns out you're just a callous prig. Pfft
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Post by Poly on Sept 29, 2010 17:27:20 GMT
It's common sense that a place that has been billed as a sea of piss has P.C. boundaries? You never answered that question. Although anyone can see if gang rape is a problem, we are clearly not. Also, not that it matters, (but you didn't get the joke) we were always saying Yoritomo was our Mother. Babies aren't born out the ass. The joke is that Yoritomo had a vagina. "The very next day he had fertilized eggs." I said he & was talking about woman parts, if that's unacceptable lets go ahead & delete Kiki's one line story as the same thing was mentioned there. Or is that kind of thing acceptable for everyone else? Should we prohibit jokes that get old, or whenever Trygon isn't amused? Oh sorry guys, I can't answer that question I have a phone call.
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Post by Julio on Sept 29, 2010 17:57:44 GMT
I have a feeling NewGen is going to birth NewNewGen.
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Post by FungusA on Sept 29, 2010 18:21:32 GMT
I really don't care about Yori, I left OldGen behind. I don't even care if people accuse him of beating babies to death and laughing and filming it and then fapping over it at later times, I really couldn't care less. And Leela and Trygon, don't bicker, what does it get you? trygon gains no respect, Leela probably makes trygon giggle a little when she's trying to make him feel bad, nobody wins, don't even bother.
This forum is amazing, don't tip it on the bad side by bickering and squaballing over an issue that half of /NG/ probably doesn't give a shit about.
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