From The Tyranid Hive

[The Hive Mind]

While my main anger comes from the people that advertised this web site on The Tyranid Hive, breaking our forum rules, my disappointment also comes from you all that joined and yet never expressed concern that Yorimoto, who I assume is the mod that is referred to in the posts I've read here, was too overbearing. Not one of you contacted me via e-mail,(which is visible on my profile, both here and on The Tyranid Hive) or PM, (expect for one person a year ago, and that seemed more of a personal vendetta than a valid reasoning). Have I EVER been unfair? Have I, (not Yori, but I) EVER upset, or EVER been to overbearing?
And yet you would insult myself and the fellow community members by starting up a forum and advertise it on our site. I even now use the word our site!!!

Had I received several such e-mails expressing such concern I would have investigated and acted, which is why I am the ONLY Admin, giving me the right to DO such an action, should it be required with ANY member, be they mod or member.

While you could state that I am never on The Tyranid Hive most of the time, this is due to life commitments however I pay the site a 30 min visit everyday! And check my inbox everyday.

I'll leave you with this final thought before I receive your replies, The Tyranid Hive was originally started all the way back in September 2004 with the intention to create a user friendly Tyranid Community, free of the bureaucracy of other forums. Where each and EVERY member's voice could be heard and was valid, and while I was able to commit my time to enforce such a site by moderating it I knew it was. However as Uni approached I knew my time would be limited, so I passed down the torch to the moderators we have today, to carry out the same intention for the site. If at anytime this changed I expected I would be informed as such, by you the members, and while I still retain executive powers I could an still can enforce the greater majorities voice. I want the site to remain as the friendliest community out on the web, for it was designed to be a democracy. If this has change I, as the Admin, (Head Honcho, Boss, Supreme Overlord and The Hive's Collective Mind) would have and always will endeavour to change this.

[salamut2202]

sorry sir but you see - you've change things. many, to my knowledge, thought you had abandoned the hive for other commitments. from what we knew you went AWOL and yorimoto took responsibility of the hive. we didn't know you were still present, i rarely saw 'online' near you name. so that is the lack of contact with you. seriously, from were some members were standing yori almost took the place of admin.

another occurrence had commenced in the unintended distillation of the community - that was the players and hobiest and the generalers. yeah well general almost an became entirely different community. with this in mind there were, what i felt was inconsistent waves of letting us go wild than cracking down on us. this separated the mods and the members as 'them and us' (although it doesn't help that yorimoto doesn't respond ever).

and so there was bickering and the 'other stuff' went through some crazy changed like trygon not being a mod, aux 'clean up', there was the rejection of the the chatroom and more recently yorimoto's 'reset'. now there were people who wanted to fix the community problems below otherstuff but lead to lack of understanding and ended with "hey, where is the generaller mod? the ones we have have only contributed to the top side"

al our boards and discussions and topics were gone in a blink of an eye, sir, and without consent started a little anger. now remember, people didn't know you were around so we didn't know who else to complain to. this was the catalyst. this was the response. this was the rebuttal. and you have just became a member of the conceived solution. then some who were in on the problems of 'other stuff' decided to invite the generallers.

[Captain Leela]

You are my hero for today, Salamut! Very well said!

[kaosherald]

Sal is absolutely correct in all that he said, but even so I personally would not have advertised on TTH, but that was not my decision to make.

[Trygon]

Yori wiped out an entire board. And Aux told me that it seemed like only him and coff actually liked General. Even if you support General, it will never change that almost the entire staff team had it out for us and that our days would be numbered.

This is because General's regular community were very different from the rest of the site. We were always breaking rules and causing trouble for mods. Not because we want to be dicks, but because that was a bi-product of how our e-culture was. We were crude, we were rude, we were about as forward as a freight train, and we wouldn't have it any other way. And knowing this; clearly we couldn't continue under The Tyranid Hive. Eventually, this was going to happen and we would form our own kingdom on the internet under our own rules.

The fact is; most the General community barely post outside of General. We were a liability to what is essentially a Tyranid Community. And Yori's purge of the General board was inevitable. As much as it pains me to say this; in some way he is right. General being more active then the Tyranid boards is a problem. Because it means that the Mod Team is putting effort into a board that isn't going to give back anything to the Wargaming Community and due to the posters; will require more moderation then the boards that do produce useful content.

The General board is a place for Tyranid Players to go and chill out. But us? Most of us were barely going to TTH for Tyranids. Yori gave us the kick in the ass we needed. If we want to have a community such as this, it cannot be so in The Tyranid Hive so long as Tyranid Players come first and so long as it has the rules that it does. And TTH shouldn't change for us.

And besides; we have a nice website here. We can be more then just a General Board Community in NewGen. We can grow and expand far beyond that and reach the full potential of what we can achieve. So, this can only really be win/win. TTH doesn't have to cater for a leech community, and GenPosters have their own site.


As for Poly's PM Campaign, I cannot defend him over it. I would never be as offensive towards him as to fight his own battles for him.

[Thlaylie]

I'm speechless...

Quick someone make note......

Aww someone took one of my balls away

[CephaSquiddy]

To much drama. But I do agree with almost everything Trygon said. Sal has some awesome points too.

[Custy]

I agree with sal somewhat (we did not know you were still around) however i do feel there should have been maybe someone who did send thehivemind a pm before this whole thing started. I feel that this 'new general' is sorta an angry rebellion but was not really thought out. Both sides are at fault (the hive mind for not appearing to be around and us for not considering all the options)...

[Thlaylie]

The hive Mind is posting in everything in General over there?

And not this topic, but actually engaging in relevant conversation.

I am a little weirded out.

I can count on one hand the number of posts I've seen from him up til now?

[Trygon]

Er, guys. Don't kick down Hive Mind's ball count for this. It takes balls to confront an entire community single handedly, and I commend him for that.

[Custy]

Aye, id rather not see all this hating be directed towards him. Hes a victim also (I guess)and again like us he made mistakes. I say lets put this all in the past and get on with life. Shit happens... Now lets end all this drama already...

[salamut2202]

hey i just thought he deserved a response. fairdinkum, short of deserving and apology! this site isn't just a solution, it is yet another hammerblow on the wedge in the community of the tth. too quichly we have forgotten many of us have initially joined that community?

[Trygon]

Whilst I do think that the relationship between NewGen and TTH needs to be repaired after this I still refuse to accept that General was the same community as the rest of TTH. We split off on our own thing last year and it became quite obvious that this had happened. However, I do acknowledge that some posters of NewGen might want to keep posting on TTH (and vice versa), and for that reason we need to put this issue to bed.

[The Hive Mind]

Then I apologies for not being more present, you guys shouldn't HAVE to make a site like this, I MADE that part of the forum for exactly that. It angers me that people have taken what I wanted the site to be, and what I asked them to carry on for me and made you have to do this! Be aware I WILL be making changes to the site and WILL endeavour to bring back the General Board, (the one before Yori deleted it). Though naturally I'll have to discuss his reasoning for doing it. Other changes will be to gage your and all other members opinions on changes we need to make, (wether the Chatroom should be made official, etc... Creativity shouldn't be stifled, but encouraged).

Consider the new age of The Tyranid Hive just around the corner, for I will return.

[Trygon]

Wait... Did you even read the bit about us walking on the toes of the rules, and the bit about General Community, and the bit about us making our own place... I mean, the staff reacted as they did for justifiable reasons. It sounds like you are taking General's side too much.

[salamut2202]

well now my spirits are lifted. we will have a repaired hive. i was always glad that you'd return BTW and we're sorry that we've kinda split your site's community right through the 'other stuff' title. i'm enjoying myself on this site but i don't want it to be the only solution to a deep problem. it was our fault in part for making general hell for the mods. this is getting closer to the hive that i joined

@ trygon: he wants his hive back together. so we're going to have to meet a middle ground. for the general the caused the problems it has it's place here.you said it yourself. we need to mend the ties between TTH and general (which i guess is now newgen)

[The Hive Mind]

I've not gaged their opinions yet, however you guys are just as much a part of the site as anyone and everyone else and over the next few days EVERYONE will get to have there voice heard. However I stand by advertising on the site was wrong, but yes I did read it, but in which case my initial conclusion would be to have a general board poster such as yourself or someone similar the one with power over that board so mods don't have to control it.

[Trygon]

Personally, I think it would be beneficial for OldGen to be repaired (by your powers combined I am NewOldGen). I'd return to posting if it was, and keep this place going too. I'd keep my crazy shenanigans here, and post as a rule abiding citizen on TTH General. Call it having your cake and eating it.

EDIT: I cannot be a mod on TTH. Some of the things I have done there are unforgivable and I cannot be allowed to return to the staff team. There are other candidates for the job, but none of them are me.

[1deadcop]

The hive mind gets balls up from me, it take alot of Strength to come to an alien site and post, As for what been said and things to come. With out TTH i know for a fact i would not have met all these great friends of mine. And Yes i am a tyranid player and yes i do use TTH for that reason, But When every single post is the same thing or threads getting nerco'd off every page, it gets old reading the same posts over and over about the same topics. /G/ was my way to get way from that, the craziness of the other boards. Just think if NewGen as a sister site. A place where the wild kids can play free, with out fear of Aux's Nukes or Yori's Ban Hammer

[Custy]

I believe one of the reasons the general board grew so much was because of so many people moving away from nids (ive moved onto to a new army and warmachine) but not wanting to leave the site (its a great community). General seemed like the place to go.